Tuesday, January 13, 2009

Tuesday 1/13 Shadow Baby discussion on line

Post 3 Questions and 3 observations (McGhee's style of writing, a favorite passage, something you can relate to in the character, foreshadowing, etc.)

Participate in doing this for the first period and you will not have a test on these early chapters.

Then respond to each other's comments.

37 comments:

Ta'Shae said...

1. why is Clara so interested in the old man?
2. How did Clara become so anvanced in her grammar?
3.why is the old man important to the story?

Wade said...

Why does she start hanging out with the old man?
What does the flash back mean?
Why does she make the man's life more interesting, and make it up?

thndrft said...

Questions:

1. What in the story does she not lie about?

2. The chickens, did they have any deep, metaphorical meaning?

3. Is her mother's real name Tamar?

Observations:

1. I don't like how McGhee characterizes boys, even though she does have to put in interesting characters.

2. The way Georg speaks is to me, beautiful, and the way that Clara interacts with him and learns his tendencies is beautifully written, also.

3. The book was written in a sort of smugness, it seems, where the story feels tight-knit and smug.

vicky1234 said...

1.how can she grow up in a wierd place?
2.why was she twisting haysticks?
3.where does she live ?
4.why does she go in the woods alot?

Val said...

1.) Why does Clara make up fantastic stories for the life of the old man?

2.) Clara knows the old man's name. Why does she continue to refer to him as the "old man"?

3.) What is the signifigance of Clara's lost earring?

Aubrey said...

This book is insane, it's written really differently and I like Clara.

Questions and Observations:
1. Why would Tamar get chickens?
2. Why does Clara call her mom Tamar?
3. Why did Alison choose to write in the first person, rather than the third?

1. Clara is very perceptive of others feelings, intentions, etc.
2. Clara blames winter for the death of her sister.
3. The old man seems to have social problems.

thndrft said...

Vicky: She lives in the Adirondacks.
She was talking about the pioneers twisting haysticks in order to feed the fires.
And she lives in a woody area.
So naturally, she goes into the woods.

jeneeskinner said...

1. What country is the old man from?

2. Is her twin sister real or did she make it up?

3. What is the green adding paper for?

thndrft said...

Aubrey:
I agree!
Chickens as a grown-up project?

You know what I'd like to see?
I'd like to see Clara die.
I think that'd be a good ending.

marissa said...

This book is kind of werid but at the same time you get intrested in to the book.
1.)I really want to know why would she lie about her sister?
2.)Why does Clara's mother not want to share what happened to her father and grandfather?
3.)Why does she want to interview the Georg when there so many other peple to interview?
In her stories she really uses alot of imagery you can see the lanterns that she hangs for the old man and she also uses safisticated language which is very good. she also puts a lot of details in her writing so then it grabs the readers attention.

luvshay_shay said...

One of the observations i made was that McGhee has many flashbacks. She tends to talk about one thing and just ramble on to the next thing. I also noticed that she uses a lot of sophisticated vocabulary for an 11 year old to say.
Some of the questions i have is why is the little girl so fasinated with the old man?
Why is the the old mans name Georg and not George?
Is anything about the story of her birth true?

Justice said...

Why does she write aif the flash backs are in the present.
She talks about the old man and how she remembers the times when he was around. Why was she around him? Why didn't she fit in that well? When she talks about her mom she tries to help us understand how she felt around her. I think she is kind of odd. Why does her mom feel so comfortable around her like that. It seems cool but where is the proper discipline.

Jerry Figueroa said...

Questions 1-5

1) Why does Clara start hanging out with the Old man?

2) What is Clara's mother name?

3) What kind of character is the old man? Primary or secondary?

4) Who is the antagonist of the story?

5) Why does Clara call him the "old man"?

Whitney said...

3 Questions:
1. Why did McGhee decide to use a church as the opening setting?
2. Why doesn't clara get along with her mother?
3. Why does the author decide to use the mother's name?

3 Observations:
1. The girl seems like she's very distant from her mother.
2. The author introduces the mother as Tamar early in the book.
3. She flashes back alot

monica35002 said...

1) How is the old man important to the story?
2) Will Clara and her mother's relationship grow?
3) Why does her mother refuse to share the history of Clara's father and twin?

luvshay_shay said...

Some other questons i have is:

1.) What is the true reason why Clara got the chickens?

2.) Why do only pioneer girls call their mother ma?

3.) Do the laterns, and metal working represent something very important in the story?

Val said...

Various observations that I made:

1.)Clara's strange fixation with words and language is almost intrusive at times.

2.)The first person narrative alows us to better get to know and connect with the character. We get to see the strange ways in which her mind works.

3.)The flashbacks help us to see why Clara hates winter and detests her name so much, trapped in a blizzard losing her twin. It's interesting that McGee picks winter as her last name.

marissa said...

To answer some of sweetie's questions:
1.) well i think that Clara is so intrested in the old man because she doesnt really see a lot of people with him. I know that if I saw someone that was not really that social i would wounder about him too, if he had family or not.
2.) I belive that Clara became so advanced with her language by reading so much she says in the book that she love to resurch things and that she reads alot of peoples biography,
3.) Right now i am not that sure why the old man is important in the book but I am hoping to find out.

Wade said...

With what Gamzon just said with the old man may be a polish-jew hollocaust survivor, I can relate to this because my granmother's sister was a polish Hollocaust survivor.

Zach Gilbert said...

1.What is Clara's internal connection with the old man?
2.How does Clara's life relate to your own? (Such as the grown-up work)
3. How do you think the author's life relates to the character.

1 Clara is far too advanced with her grammer
2.George seems to hint at a troubled or disturbing school.
3. The story seems to foreshadow George Kominsky's death.

Jerry Figueroa said...

Observations:

I noticed Clara has a very strong vocabulary. I think she gained this vocabulary strength by reading a lot. She really likes words and is kind of like a writer like us.

Kennethea said...

1.) What actuall events happened when Clara was born?
2.) Why is Clara so obsessed with the old man- Georg?
3.) When talking about her mother, why does Clara refer to her mother as Tamar and not mom?

___Oberservations____
1. Clara went into the old man's trailer without really knowing who he really was and entrusted her safety in the old man.
2. Clara talks a lot about CJ WIlson.....
3. Clara's vocabulary is really advanced for age- more advanced than mines.

Anonymous said...

OBSERVATIONS:
1. I noticed that Clara is very queer because she is obsessed with words.
2. I noticed that her relationship with Georg has been getting very close.
3. Clara spells her last name with a lower case w; so it's winter.

QUESTIONS:
1. Why does Clara call her mother by her first name when she is not around.
2. Why does Clara confide in the old man?
3. Why didn't the old man ever learn to read? Or was reading just not an option where he used to live?

Anonymous said...

Observations:
1.When she writes in first person, it's like you're staning right next to her when she's talking about the other characters.
2.It seems like Clara is really interested in the old man and always has an eye on him to see what he does next.
3.Clara doesn't have many friends.

Questions:
1.Why does Clara follow the old man and does an interview on him?
2.Why is her vocabulary so important to her?
3.Why did the old man even let her do the interview to begin with? Why didn't he say no and walk away?

Ta'Shae said...

This book is insane, it's written really differently and I like Clara.

Questions and Observations:
1. Why would Tamar get chickens?
2. Why does Clara call her mom Tamar?
3. Why did Alison choose to write in the first person, rather than the third?

1. Clara is very perceptive of others feelings, intentions, etc.
2. Clara blames winter for the death of her sister.
3. The old man seems to have social problems.

I think these are really good questions maybed they'll get answered in the book.

Jerry Figueroa said...

The old man could be that very special person that Clara never had in her life.

Aubrey said...

Khari! You are right. The entire book could be a lie, that would be an interesting twist, if the old man was a figment of her imagination like Angelica Rose...
I think that the chickens are only another example that shows she's excluded from virtually everything in her life, you just like weird metaphors too much.
And I don't think her name is Tamar... I don't know though.

Alex said...

1. What is the purpose of the Old Man's character in the story?

2. How did Clara come to be this intelligent for her age?

3. Why is Tamar so rude to Clara?


OBSERVATIONS:

1. Clara seems to keep mostly to herself, though it is unclear as to why.

2. "Winter' seems to be important to Clara, even though she had said it is meant to feared.

3. Every time that Clara watches him at night, the Old Man always seems to be doing something with lanterns. I wonder if this could have something to do with his past.

thndrft said...

Aubrey! Yes, that would be increasingly depressing and increasingly confusing, but I think it would make for a semi-interesting ending, one with full interest, as I said before, would be one where Clara dies. But if they find away to expose all the lies and let her die, I'd be ecstatic.

And I see how that can be. Maybe she's a depressed schizophrenik? Wouldn't that be interesting?

jeneeskinner said...

For Sweetie
1. She senses that the old man might bring her some comfort and understanding with her father and twin sister.

2. She has nothing to do in spare time.

3. The old man helps Clara come to some understanding of the people missing in her life. He may even be the father figure she never had.

Aubrey said...

Khari, Why do you want her to die?

Alex said...

Zach: I agree about the Clara being too advanced in her grammar. Even though there are some people who do this, it still seems a little weird. Maybe it just has to do with a past event in her life.

thndrft said...

Because, Aubre! She has the sort of spark that you'd expect to be extinguished rather quickly. She's eleven, and in her twelfth year. She deserves to die.

Zach Gilbert said...

Danielle: I think the reason that she follows and obseves the old man is because she doesn't have many friends. She wants something intresting to do, or someone to interact with.

Kennethea said...

Sweetie: 1. why is Clara so interested in the old man?
2. How did Clara become so anvanced in her grammar?
3.why is the old man important to the story?

1. I think Clara is interested in the old man because he's so mysterious and Clara is the type of person thst likes to explore mysterious things.
2. Due to her wide variety of books that she has read she picks up words that are interesting to her.
3. I think the old man is important in the story because he holds an interest in Clara.

vicky1234 said...

to really tell the truth i really didnt read the book but now am really reading and i wish i can answer some of yall questions but obviously not but yea good questions everyone!!!!

Aubrey said...

You're messed up.